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jerryco wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:40 pm My advice is just get a new computer when Windows support stops. Preferably, a laptop. I don't understand why people go for a tower PC these days with a seperate monitor. Unless you have a lot of typing to do ofcoarse. A laptop (I'm using an Asus VivoBook) uses, if I read the specs right, 45 Watts. A tower PC can be 400 Watts not including the monitor!

Same power saving remark goes for gaming... we have consoles that have everything in one and they will always support games made for that console. Also a power saver!
I use the tower and 27 inch monitor for my web and print work and actually don't own a laptop. I am increasing the monitor to a 32 inch. So a laptop for is useless.
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Bluesman wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:49 pm
ColinM wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:54 am Same here - thanks for that link Bluesman - downloaded, installed and checked - received the "This PC v=can't run Windows 11" but doesn't give any details why. It's a 64 bit base with an AMD A8-7600 Radeon R7, 10 Compute Cores 4C+6G 3.10 processor with 8GB installed RAM.

Good thread Zinc! 8)

Edit - Would appear that the main culprit is the absence of a Trusted Platform Module (TPM) chip in the motherboard. Quick research says these may be able to be added depending on your mother board. Not all have a TPM chip slot.

Open a DOS window, type in tpm and check results.
De nada... Colin :) Did some Googlin' and surfin' now in the morning and seams the internet start storming. Also looks like there maybe will be some updates from windows that "maybe" will loosen up some... :roll:
As "zinc" wrote... there will be some other ways (buying) or updating the motherboard...
I will definitely not buy a new pc. Rather dance around in Windows 10 limbo for some years more :lol:
Fair points. I will be buying a new machine in 2022. For now Windows 10 it is I am afraid... :D
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zinc wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:15 pm I use the tower and 27 inch monitor for my web and print work and actually don't own a laptop. I am increasing the monitor to a 32 inch. So a laptop for is useless.
Why not get three 65 inch screens? And a Dual Tower system with Triple RAID redundancy? Or get the replica of the Milennium Wheel in your parking space backyard? :lol:
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jerryco wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:45 pm
zinc wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:15 pm I use the tower and 27 inch monitor for my web and print work and actually don't own a laptop. I am increasing the monitor to a 32 inch. So a laptop for is useless.
Why not get three 65 inch screens? And a Dual Tower system with Triple RAID redundancy? Or get the replica of the Milennium Wheel in your parking space backyard? :lol:
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Well, as long as it runs WP5.1 :D
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My WWB PC and laptop both have a TPM module (v2) so they are OK.

I have two others that I use as test beds - no TPM, so they won't be test beds much longer. Which is a shame because they are OK PCs.
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Hi guys... after a days struggeling updating the bios on Gigabyte G1.SNIPER B7 and activating the tpm 2.0 and secure boot, still don't accept for Windows 11 update?? Anyone have a clue? 8)
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zinc wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:42 am Indeed Collin - The Trusted Platform Module (TPM) chip in the motherboard - but depending on your motherboard, you can buy these from Amazon... But see this:
https://www.onmsft.com/news/windows-11- ... under-fire
Thanks Zinc - let's hope MS get their proverbial organised.
jerryco wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:40 pm I don't understand why people go for a tower PC these days with a seperate monitor. Unless you have a lot of typing to do ofcoarse. A laptop (I'm using an Asus VivoBook) uses, if I read the specs right, 45 Watts. A tower PC can be 400 Watts not including the monitor!

Same power saving remark goes for gaming... we have consoles that have everything in one and they will always support games made for that console. Also a power saver!


Jerryco - One of the reasons is the ability to have a 1920 (or larger) pair of or even three monitors.
Bluesman wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:49 pm Did some Googlin' and surfin' now in the morning and seams the internet start storming. Also looks like there maybe will be some updates from windows that "maybe" will loosen up some... :roll:
As "zinc" wrote... there will be some other ways (buying) or updating the motherboard...
I will definitely not buy a new pc. Rather dance around in Windows 10 limbo for some years more :lol:
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Bluesman wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:18 pm Hi guys... after a days struggeling updating the bios on Gigabyte G1.SNIPER B7 and activating the tpm 2.0 and secure boot, still don't accept for Windows 11 update?? Anyone have a clue? 8)
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See this. It might help....

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comm ... _cant_run/
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zinc wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:47 am
Bluesman wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:18 pm Hi guys... after a days struggeling updating the bios on Gigabyte G1.SNIPER B7 and activating the tpm 2.0 and secure boot, still don't accept for Windows 11 update?? Anyone have a clue? 8)
Hey Bluesman;

See this. It might help....

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comm ... _cant_run/
Tnx for sharing "zinc". Spread both some light and some wonders :D I did some of the tweaks earlier but shall try again, because it looks like Microsoft is updating the health control app and the minimum restr...??? Looks like they were not prepared for anything that would come:?
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Some helpful reading. Processor requirements
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window ... quirements
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BaconFries wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:40 pm Some helpful reading. Processor requirements
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window ... quirements
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More news about requirements Windows 11 whether you want it or not..

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/sc ... oft-OS/amp
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So glad 10 still exists. For those who not read the link: Windows 11 will at some point require a webcam and internet connection.

Should we make reports about our daily activities and how they are compliant in Windows 12?
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Starting to look like George Orwell's 1984 😯
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Well, it raises the question, how virtual do we need to be?

My motto somewhat related to this is:

Live where you were born, and work where you live.

Should cut travel in half I'm guessing and prevents a lot of internet time talking to friends from the past.
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BaconFries wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:40 am More news about requirements Windows 11 whether you want it or not..

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/sc ... oft-OS/amp
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I still have one pc in the family running on XP :lol:
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Seams the CPU is the biggest problem for not be able to install Windows 11. See this video and download the link to the check tool they provide in this Youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSsRls3X6rA
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Bluesman wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:36 pm Seams the CPU is the biggest problem for not be able to install Windows 11. See this video and download the link to the check tool they provide in this Youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSsRls3X6rA
I don't provide the download link here because is good you look the video and get some important info about the download.
It's not a bad thing. It's just early days...

WWB was developed with VC++ which means it will not have any issues with Windows 11 and if it does, Pablo will apply his magic! :D

https://www.engadget.com/windows-11-han ... 41175.html
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zinc wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:04 am
Bluesman wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:36 pm Seams the CPU is the biggest problem for not be able to install Windows 11. See this video and download the link to the check tool they provide in this Youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSsRls3X6rA
I don't provide the download link here because is good you look the video and get some important info about the download.
It's not a bad thing. It's just early days...

WWB was developed with VC++ which means it will not have any issues with Windows 11 and if it does, Pablo will apply his magic! :D

https://www.engadget.com/windows-11-han ... 41175.html
Agree zink :D Anyway it's fun with a new OS, there are some small goodies, but WWB is most important and sure Microsoft going to update their list of CPU:s
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Now worked with WWB 16 on Windows 11 for 2 days... so far so good :D
Windows 11 is really a nice experience.
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Bluesman wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:28 pm Now worked with WWB 16 on Windows 11 for 2 days... so far so good :D
Windows 11 is really a nice experience.
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zinc wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:06 pm
Bluesman wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:28 pm Now worked with WWB 16 on Windows 11 for 2 days... so far so good :D
Windows 11 is really a nice experience.
Nice one!
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That's all good and all... BUT can you play minesweeper? :lol:
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And... can she bake a cherry pie, Billy-boy, Billy-boy? :)
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No... but it reads my mind :lol:
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Bluesman wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:30 pm No... but it reads my mind :lol:
In that case I don't need Windows 11 - My wife already does that. :lol:
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ColinM wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:33 pm
Bluesman wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:30 pm No... but it reads my mind :lol:
In that case I don't need Windows 11 - My wife already does that. :lol:
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Just a quick update on this. Im testing WB16 on Windows 11 64bit and so far its working all ok.

The only issue I have come across was in the installation it overwrote my Microsoft C++ 2015-2019 with the Microsoft C++ 2015 version and my Office 2019 Pro plus volume licence version had to be re installed again followed by Microsoft C++ 2015-2019

Overall its great and very fast compared to Win 10

I will bring any other updates as necessary or if anyone has a feature they want me to test for them let me know.

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Good to know Graham - thanks for the update. 8)
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GrahamW wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 3:18 am Just a quick update on this. Im testing WB16 on Windows 11 64bit and so far its working all ok.

The only issue I have come across was in the installation it overwrote my Microsoft C++ 2015-2019 with the Microsoft C++ 2015 version and my Office 2019 Pro plus volume licence version had to be re installed again followed by Microsoft C++ 2015-2019

Overall its great and very fast compared to Win 10

I will bring any other updates as necessary or if anyone has a feature they want me to test for them let me know.

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Are you sure it will run on only 128GB of RAM Zinc?
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jerryco wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 4:08 pm Are you sure it will run on only 128GB of RAM Zinc?
128???? That's plenty!!!!
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The more I play with Windows 11 Im really liking it. I haven't found anything yet that is alarming and causing an issue.
Everything is just working as intended.

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Just updated the "WhyNotWin11" tool today saturday... and yes now my cpu also meats the minimi demands, so 100% compatible now :D
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So with all the talk / excitement about Windows 11 and will it be compatible with your existing PC and its ability to run Android app / apks I would hold of the excitement for now. According to the following article you may be disappointed as Microsoft has teamed up with Amazon...yes Amazon to be the provider of them and not Google. Now whether at a later date will it be possible to install (sideload) third party apps/apks not available from it like you can do with other Android devices only time will tell.
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That may also be why Google has moved away from APKs as installation media.
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zinc wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:15 pm I use the tower and 27 inch monitor for my web and print work and actually don't own a laptop. I am increasing the monitor to a 32 inch. So a laptop for is useless.
How are the three 65 inch screens and a Dual Tower system with Triple RAID redundancy coming on zinc? I guess you do have the Wheel already?
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